Tell me why
The list doesn't have many characters who appear in the show,so I want to add them to the list.I hope studio can update the pictures of them one day.Could you tell me the reason why you delete my edicts?
A fair argument you've made, but Jimmy should come before Token as he's basically become the sixth boy, due to been featured more prominently with the boys in recent years (Imaginationland, Pee, Stick of Truth). He's also been in just as must promotional material as Token. Also, I don't think it's necessary to have these characters out of their alphabetical order, as it may cause confusion to most visitors.
- Kevin Stoley
- Nichole Daniels
- Annie Knitts
- David Rodriguez
I'm not questioning your authority, I'm just offering a much more efficient way to order the list.
I'm not going to change it (yet), but I want you to hear me out, and listen to & respect my reasoning fan to fan; like a respect you as a moderator.
The reason I changed the list was because it is meant to be like that! None of the characters listed above are main or secondary characters! Therefor should be arranged in their proper alphabetical order after the secondary characters!
Jimmy should be before Token because:
- He's had more screen time.
- He's had more speaking roles.
- He's had more featured episodes.
- He has a much more prominent role in the boys' clique.
- He's been in just as much promo art/material as Token, if not more! Hell, even Timmy's had more promotional things made about him.
- He's basically the sixth boy!
The most efficient order would be:
- The boys (duh).
- Butter, then Wendy (obviously).
- Jimmy (reasons listed above).
- Clyde and Token, or vice versa (Like you said, Token has been in more promos. And Clyde has the most speaking roles of any 4th grader, after the boys & Butters).
- Craig, Tweek, Timmy, & Scott (In that order).
- Heidi, Bebe, & Red.
- Everyone else (IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER).
Please, if you're still not satisfied with my reasoning, just talk with me so we can reach a compromise. We're both mature adults.
Based on some recent branding choices by South Park Studios, it appears that the show is planning on making Nelly a recurring character from here on out. Specifically, Nelly is featured alone in a sticker from the official app's sticker set, the official app is considering adding her as a character with a quotes section and she will be a playable character in the upcoming official mobile game. From what it looks like, Nelly is probably going to be the girls' tough guy type, one of the toughest kids in town in general and a significant rival to Butters. Bebe should also be listed before Heidi because Bebe has done more on the show than Heidi has and has been a key supporting character since the show's first season, while Heidi only became a regular part of the show last season. While she had speaking roles well before last season, has been a part of the girls' group in school and has had a name and an identity for quite a while now, she was nowhere near as prominent as either Wendy, Bebe or even Red prior to last season. As a result of all the attention she got last season, her noticeable presence in the show's official mobile app, multiple appearances in the official mobile app's sticker set, being a playable character in the upcoming official mobile game and her appearance on an officially licensed T-shirt along with a number of established characters from the show that is sold nationally in both stores and online, it appears that Heidi may have officially become the show's third major female fourth grader alongside Wendy and Bebe. It also seems like some of the most important kids are the ones who wear hats and since Heidi has a hat now, it is now likely that she will at least be appearing on a basis similar to that of Wendy and Craig. Kevin Stoley should be featured before the alphabetically listed kids because he shows up quite a bit more than most of the other kids, has a highly distinctive fanboy personality and is constantly a subject of criticism by and an often colleague of Cartman. Therefore, that is why I have the character list sorted in the order that it is. One more thing to mention in regards to the organization of the character list is the fact that Wendy is the only one of the kids outside of the main four to predate the existence of the pilot episode while Butters and Token have been around since the pilot was first produced. Due to the fact that he was only introduced in Season 5 and was initially intended to be a one-time character to serve as a rival to Timmy, Jimmy should be listed behind Butters, Wendy and Token at the very least.
Nwt000 (talk) 12:28, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
Firstly, I'd like to apologize for getting back to you so late.
Secondly, I still feel like Nelly, Kevin and the others I listed should not be added quite yet, as they're in the same category as characters like Bradley, Jason, and DogPoo, and should be left in alphabetical order (for now). Nelly's a personal favorite of mine, but it doesn't feel right putting her, and the others, where they don't belong.
I agree with you on Bebe, Heidi, & Red.
I don't agree with your argument of the "Jimmy & Token" situation. I know Butters & Token were around in since the pilot, but the same can be said for Clyde, DogPoo, Bebe, Red, and Annie. But Butters wasn't properly introduced until season 3, and Token wasn't until season 4! Jimmy should come before Token. I mean Trey's 3 main (4th Grader) voices are Cartman, Stan, and Jimmy; like Matt's are Kyle, Butters, and Kenny. I've listed my reasons why Jimmy should be higher, so I won't bore you by repeating myself; but they're are all valid and reasonable arguments.
I wanted to discuss with you regarding the character list. I was trying to better organize the students, creating another category for students who go to South Park Elementary. You seem to have changed it back and I want to talk with you about it.
I personally feel if we have kids who are known to be out of town or have left SPE, (South Park Elementary), then we should put them in their own sub-section. It will make it easier to navigate and for new users to understand where to put one off, out of town kids.
Also I moved the Teens/ Young adults to the adults section as none of the characters inside that category go to the school. -User:Sgt. Sarge
I’m not making any further changes to the character list and that’s final. Also, please watch your grammar quality or you will be blocked, thank you for your cooperation. Nwt000 (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2017 (EDT)
I would like to know why. There are characters under the South Park elementary list that clearly don't belong there, surly some tweaking would do that page some good. -User:Sgt. Sarge
What I and the rest of the staff here think is correct stays here, that’s all there is to it. Also, your idea would just make the character list more confusing and difficult to read. Nwt000 (talk) 21:22, 24 September 2017 (EDT)
Very well, but I still want to point out what could be a much better way to find the character people are looking for. Personally I love much of the list as is but it nags me that there are students and faculty from outside the school categorized under SPE. I do hope you will take another look at my past revision in the history and compare it with what's being used now. I did not mean to make anything more confusing, quite the opposite. By having another subsection of children confirmed not from SPE helps people know right away where they need to go to look for a specific person.
Let me know if you do give it a try but whatever, was just trying to help out. -User:Sgt. Sarge
I know I've been deleting some stuff but I just don't see how Craig and Red are cousins but I get it now. I know we've had our differences. Just wanted to make amends. -User: its_me_kenny_mc
No biggie, I just got kinda jelly, there's been some hints in certain places, but that's not important right now. Anyways, I want to thank you and your girlfriend for adding and adjusting stuff on here as well, you two have been very helpful! -nwt000
Thanks man! -User:its_me_kenny_mc
You are most welcome! Nwt000 (talk) 23:58, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Also, what do you mean girlfriend? (User: its_me_kenny_mc)
Oops, my bad, your super best friend (according to your user page, anyway)! Nwt000 (talk) 00:06, 9 November 2015 (EST)
Oh yeah she's just a friend. Thanks for checking my page out though :D! -User: its_me_kenny_mc
I'm not trying to be rude, but how has Butters been confirmed as a playable buddy? I know he was planned, but in the recent E3 demo it was shown that their was only 12 ally slots. And Chaos has been the only 1 to have no gameplay shown (Of my knowledge). -Jackstanbrah7
The game's website says that the game has 13 playable buddies, Professor Chaos has appeared in trailers working alongside all of the other superheroes and he is shown to be with the other kids in various official artwork for the game that would suggest that he's not the game's primary antagonist and will team up with Coon and Friends to fight a larger threat to South Park. Therefore, I'm almost certain that Professor Chaos will be a playable character in the game. -nwt000
I know that the website says that, but at E3 (in separate interviews & gameplay) it was revealed that there was 10 (no longer 12) classes, and 12 (no longer 13) buddies. I certainly think he is a buddy, but nothing has been confirmed with hard (even 1 second) gameplay evidence, thus making him not technically a canon buddy at this time. -Jackstanbrah7
What are your sources for each of these changes? I haven't seen any evidence of this being reported and the sources may have messed up with either their copyediting or factchecking. Trust me, I have a journalism degree. -nwt000
Here's the classes' new info, at 4:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZy2lGr2Vy8&t=14s And here's the new ally roundup, on the right. https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/7/73/Screenshot_%28411%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20170622083843 -Jackstanbrah7
It could be an earlier build of the game or perhaps he may be a secret character later on in the game. I also suppose Jason Schroeder could have also misspoke about the number of classes in the game. For right now, I'll keep the information currently featured in the article intact until there's definitive proof of Butters being dropped from the list of playable characters and the number of superhero classes being cut down. -nwt000
I understand. I personally think he might be an end-of-game bonus, or in a DLC pack with General Disarray & a Chaos costume maybe; But I definitely don't see him being dropped as a buddy ENTIRELY. Anyway thank you for your time. -Jackstanbrah7
Cartman and Heidi
Don't officially call Cartman and Heidi ex-boyfriend and ex-girlfriend just yet. Trey Parker said that he was a fan of Cartman having Heidi by his side and doesn't want her to go away. So let's just wait until after this week's episode airs, which may include a resolution to what happen in White People Renovating Houses, and then you can update their relationship status.-SouthAl19
How come you guys didn't call Stan and Wendy ex-boyfriend and ex-girlfriend after their breakup from last season but did that to Cartman and Heidi when Trey plans to keep them together? -SouthAl93
Ex-loves are never listed as relatives because they have no significant connection to each other anymore. I also highly doubt Cartman and Heidi will ever be a couple again after what he did to her and the reaction he had to breaking up with her. Because of that, they will be removed from each other's listings of relatives. Also, stop your obsession with the kids' relationships or I will block you from editing the wiki and will report you to my supervisors. Nwt000 (talk) 16:54, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
Cartman and Heidi got back together tonight so that means we can convert them back to boyfriend and girlfriend. And don't worry, I am not going to be obsessing over the school couples on here so I will be just be adding just Cartman and Heidi's relationship status according to the show and add some details on new characters that were featured in tonight's episode like Kim Jon-um and maybe some of the kids who were killed in the new episode. So there is no need to block me on the wiki.-SouthAl93
I get the feeling you don't like me
I'm just trying to help. The little edit on Kevin I just did is justified, just like how your edits to my contributions are justified. In Black Friday, Kevin isn't just seen in the background at an unusual place. He exchanges dialogue with Cartman as the captain of the Enterprise. Please don't change it back. -User:Sgt. Sarge